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daniel lee reports on the scramble to come together fast. >> president obama landing in washington late this morning. the senator replacing senator daniel in a way -- daniel in no way rode with him on air force one. >> i do not see how you can have a grand bargain involving tax reform entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> even starbucks is getting involved, right in "come together" on its cups. speaker john boehner is sitting the route out after failing to get house republicans to support his own plan. >> i think john boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. >> that leaves it up to majority leader harry ring in the red -- harry reid in the rest of the senate to find a solution. harry reid's plan will avoid tax creases for -- tax increases for people making too large and $50,000. >> you will see a two-step process here, one with the media dynamic so you can set up a situation where you can deal with a larger situation. >> without a deal, bush-era tax cuts will expire january 1 and spending cuts will set in. counters -- congress has set a deadline but so far th
daniel lee reports on the scramble to come together fast. >> president obama landing in washington late this morning. the senator replacing senator daniel in a way -- daniel in no way rode with him on air force one. >> i do not see how you can have a grand bargain involving tax reform entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> even starbucks is getting involved, right in "come together" on its cups. speaker john boehner is sitting the route out after failing to get...
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hammer out a deal with republicans to avoid sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. charlie's at the live desk right now this morning with more on the battle ahead for both sides of the debate. charlie the 11th hour. >> the future, the immediate future of our taxes hang in the balance. the president and house republicans are now set to square off once more to cut a deal. with just five days remaining before the tax hikes and departmental cuts take effect. before christmas house republicans failed to pass the alternate plan instead placing the responsibility on president obama and senate democrats' shoulder. according to the "washington post" gop leaders vowed to go into session to vote on anything the democratic controlled senate approved. however speaker john boehner demanded the senate first take a look at the bill the house moved through a month ago that preserved the expiring tax cuts for the wealthy as well as the middle class. that's not likely given the president's position on raising taxes for those making more than $250,000 a year. >> i want us to not go ove
hammer out a deal with republicans to avoid sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. charlie's at the live desk right now this morning with more on the battle ahead for both sides of the debate. charlie the 11th hour. >> the future, the immediate future of our taxes hang in the balance. the president and house republicans are now set to square off once more to cut a deal. with just five days remaining before the tax hikes and departmental cuts take effect. before christmas house...
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danielle leigh has more. >> as president obama leaves hawaii for washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't see how you could handle a large plant involving tax reform in a matter of days. >> serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved. john boehner said he is sitting this round out. >> i think that john boehner is being controlled unfortunately by the right wing pickwick that leaves it up to harry reid and the rest of the senate to find a solution. the plan would avoid tax increases and would eliminate some big spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> you are likely to see a two- step process. >> without a deal, bush era tax cuts will expire on january 1. congress set up the deadline hoping it would force a compromise. so far that has a compromise in. also flyback will be brian schatz. he will be replacing daniel inouye and will likely be sworn in later today. danielle leigh, wbal-tv 11 news. >> with the new year comes new state laws. >> kim dacey has more on what to expect. >> on tuesday, a dozen new state laws will go into effect. som
danielle leigh has more. >> as president obama leaves hawaii for washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't see how you could handle a large plant involving tax reform in a matter of days. >> serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved. john boehner said he is sitting this round out. >> i think that john boehner is being controlled unfortunately by the right wing pickwick that leaves it up to harry reid and the rest of the senate to...
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president obama got back today but no significant progress towards a deal. democrats and republicans are fighting about process and issues. republicans want democrats to come up with a new proposal. house republicans say sign on to their proposal, keeping tax ritz rates where they are. when it comes to this impasse, both sides have taken to blaming one another. >> the house of representatives is operating without the house of representative. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. not allowing the vast majority of the house represents to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass overwhelmingly. >> we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. the phone never rang and so now here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. >> even if democrats and republicans, their leadership and the president, were to strike a deal on the fiscal cliff, it will take a couple days for the senate to work through it, the house to work through it and right now we're only five days out before the billions of dolla
president obama got back today but no significant progress towards a deal. democrats and republicans are fighting about process and issues. republicans want democrats to come up with a new proposal. house republicans say sign on to their proposal, keeping tax ritz rates where they are. when it comes to this impasse, both sides have taken to blaming one another. >> the house of representatives is operating without the house of representative. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the...
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. >> brand new video of president obama visiting fires one and leaving hawaii with five days until we fall off that fiscal cliff. the president is cutting his vacation short to return to the white house and try to hammer out a deal. but what will actually happen if we do go over the cliff? doug luzader is live for us with the details. >> it is not going to be pretty. on board air force one heading back to washington from a hawaii after cutting christmas short. can a cup of coffee help as far as christmas is concerned. starbucks is hoping. if you go into a starbucks you will get a message written on your coffee that says come together. this is a company trying to tell the president and lawmakers here they need to come up with some kind of agreement before they go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. the senate will be meeting today. this is the first time we have seen legislative business conducted in the weeks between christmas and new years since 1970. the house come back as well but nothing yet. the other thing to consider here the two key players in all of this president o
. >> brand new video of president obama visiting fires one and leaving hawaii with five days until we fall off that fiscal cliff. the president is cutting his vacation short to return to the white house and try to hammer out a deal. but what will actually happen if we do go over the cliff? doug luzader is live for us with the details. >> it is not going to be pretty. on board air force one heading back to washington from a hawaii after cutting christmas short. can a cup of coffee...
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especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority leader. and that's where he outline it is fact that in three business days, the summit government is going to run out of borrowing capacity. john, if there were a treasurer in a business who went to their boss and said by the way, thre
especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid...
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as president obama returns to the nation's capital to try to find some sort of deal on the fiscal cliff. we are also getting late word that senate majority leader harry reid will hold a news conference at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. this all comes on the heels that senator reid may be said we are going over the fiscal cliff. stocks now every 15 minutes. the "wall street journal" out with some retailers to watch in 2013. nicole: let's start off with harry reid's comments that we may go over the fiscal cliff. as a result, we are seeing a lot of down arrows. there is a market that started off in the green and then read. that is the action that we are seeing. getting to the retailers, there are a lot of retailers that have had a lot of headlines and in many cases have been struggling. jcpenney would be one of them. down nearly 5% on the day. they have been a big loser. you had ron johnson come over from apple. the "wall street journal" talked about a few retailers. four of them, to be exact. including best buy. that would be another one. radioshack. and also sears. these are the four names we h
as president obama returns to the nation's capital to try to find some sort of deal on the fiscal cliff. we are also getting late word that senate majority leader harry reid will hold a news conference at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. this all comes on the heels that senator reid may be said we are going over the fiscal cliff. stocks now every 15 minutes. the "wall street journal" out with some retailers to watch in 2013. nicole: let's start off with harry reid's comments that we may go...
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president obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season
president obama and congressional leaders cut their vacations short, to deal with fiscal cliff negotiations. they have five days to make a deal. and housing continues to be the bright spot in the u.s. economy: home prices post their biggest advance in two years. that and more tonight on "n.b.r."! christmas may be over, but the holiday shopping season
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if he starts talking about solutions and this is important for the country, maybe a deal is in the works. >> harry reid took to the floor with strong words, we know mcconnell will do the same thing. >> we are, mcconned said our number one goal is to defeat president obama. in november the american people said very clearly they want people to work it. this is proving that at least when it comes to congressional republicans, the answer is know. great to see all three of you, thank you. >>> president george h.w. wish takes a turn for the worse, but doctors are still optimistic. >>> then hundreds of teachers sign up for free gun training in utah, and arizona's attorney general wants to arm school employees. the reverend al sharpton will join me to talk about his efforts to curb gun violence. should teachers be allowed to carry concealed weapons at school? tweet me or find me on facebook. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differ
if he starts talking about solutions and this is important for the country, maybe a deal is in the works. >> harry reid took to the floor with strong words, we know mcconnell will do the same thing. >> we are, mcconned said our number one goal is to defeat president obama. in november the american people said very clearly they want people to work it. this is proving that at least when it comes to congressional republicans, the answer is know. great to see all three of you, thank...
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obama and congress can reach a new deal by the new year, deep spending cuts will be taking effect. and while the president takes his flight back here to d.c., the first lady and their daughters are staying in hawaii. >> the first couple sat down with our very own barbara walters before their vacation. we pick up their conversation with talk about their family. >> i want to talk a bit about the girls. we've been watching them grow up from little girls to young ladies. malia recently got her first cell phone. do you monitor it and see who she calls or who she texts? >> i give my daughter, i give her a long rope, and there is monitoring, because we have rules. but monitoring may be, you never know when i'm going to walk in your room and i'm going to ask you who are you talking about and are you talking about school work? >> and they're not very good at lying. we joke sometimes about how malia is getting to the age now, boys start calling and sort of -- i always talk about how one of the main things about running again was continuing secret service protection. >> mr. obama, there is a
obama and congress can reach a new deal by the new year, deep spending cuts will be taking effect. and while the president takes his flight back here to d.c., the first lady and their daughters are staying in hawaii. >> the first couple sat down with our very own barbara walters before their vacation. we pick up their conversation with talk about their family. >> i want to talk a bit about the girls. we've been watching them grow up from little girls to young ladies. malia recently...
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president obama flying home from hawaii this morning to try and get a deal on the fiscal cliff with the deadline just five days away now, but are the two sides even talking? >>> 36 million hits and counting. the videos that made us laugh, cry and cringe in 2012. we are going to look back at four of the year's most talked about internet sensations as the stars of them join us live in the studios, thursday, december 27th, 2012. >>> from nbc news, this is "today" with matt lauer and savannah guthrie, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> good morning. welcome to "today" on this thursday morning. i'm savannah guthrie. >> i'm willie geist in this morning for matt. we have the party music on for a reason. it's someone's birthday in this room today. happy birthday, savannah. >> thank you. i'm getting my musical request for today. a little techovibe. >> we will have the carbon daters to take us back to the day you were born. >> do you need to tweet out my age? >> i gave some hints. >> turning 30, very excited about that. >> we'll let you have that one. >> a lot of wind in the new york a
president obama flying home from hawaii this morning to try and get a deal on the fiscal cliff with the deadline just five days away now, but are the two sides even talking? >>> 36 million hits and counting. the videos that made us laugh, cry and cringe in 2012. we are going to look back at four of the year's most talked about internet sensations as the stars of them join us live in the studios, thursday, december 27th, 2012. >>> from nbc news, this is "today" with...
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. >> ifill: president obama heads back to washington tonight, as house republicans call on the senate to come up with a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. with prospects still murky for a deal before year's end, what can government workers, wall street investors and taxpayers expect if lawmakers miss the deadline? for that, we turn to stacy palmer, editor of the chronicle of philanthropy. jackie simon, public policy director of the american federation of government employees. and hugh johnson, who runs an investment and advisory firm in albany, new york. you all represent different constituencies. i want to start with you, jackie. -- sorry, i want to start with you, stacy, and talk about philanthropy. this is the end of the year when people are making their decisions about whether they're going to get tax breaks or who they're going to give to. are people looking at the fiscal cliff and saying "i don't know"? >> absolutely. people are uncertain as to whether there's going to be a charitable deduction next year, things like the estate tax will change. so it's a rocky time. so some people
. >> ifill: president obama heads back to washington tonight, as house republicans call on the senate to come up with a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. with prospects still murky for a deal before year's end, what can government workers, wall street investors and taxpayers expect if lawmakers miss the deadline? for that, we turn to stacy palmer, editor of the chronicle of philanthropy. jackie simon, public policy director of the american federation of government employees. and hugh...
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president obama, he cut his christmas vacation short to deal with this crisis. he arrived back from hawaii just a short time ago, and the senate also returning to work today hoping to come up with some kind of agreement. but time is running out. jessica yellin, she has the latest from the white house. we've got dana bash following the developments on capitol hill. i want to start off with you, dana. what do we know about a possible compromise on the senate siepd what they might be proposed in fairly short order? >> compromise, i'm not so sure we'll see that. but i was told by a republican senator and democratic senator that the pr indicated before he left for hawaii that he, the president, is expected to send a piece of legislation up today with his scaled back tax plan. that's something that the president outlined in general terms on the friday before he left for hawaii and since then what we've been hearing from republicans, particularly mitch mcconnell's office is we can't talk about whether we can pass anything until we actually see the legislation. so our u
president obama, he cut his christmas vacation short to deal with this crisis. he arrived back from hawaii just a short time ago, and the senate also returning to work today hoping to come up with some kind of agreement. but time is running out. jessica yellin, she has the latest from the white house. we've got dana bash following the developments on capitol hill. i want to start off with you, dana. what do we know about a possible compromise on the senate siepd what they might be proposed in...
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president obama comes back to washington to try to hammer out a deal with the senate, and we're hearing it may come down to the final minute of the year. >>> sticky gas pedals costing toyota $1 billion. the company's plan to put sudden acceleration allegations in their past and how you may we able to cash in on it even if you already sold your car. >>> a packed show ahead. congressman steven latourette of ohio, senator richard blumenthal of connecticut, plus the grinch. it's thursday, december 27th. "starting point" begins right now. >>> well, our starting point, a brutal winter storm battering the northeast and torturing holiday travelers all over the country. here it is on the radar. the system is expected to dump up to two feet of snow on central maine today. six states are under winter storm warnings, pennsylvania, new york, massachusetts, new hampshire, vermont, and of course maine. everyone there could see at least a foot of snow. more than 200,000 customers spanning several states are already without power. more than 1700 flights had to be cancelled yesterday, hundreds more have
president obama comes back to washington to try to hammer out a deal with the senate, and we're hearing it may come down to the final minute of the year. >>> sticky gas pedals costing toyota $1 billion. the company's plan to put sudden acceleration allegations in their past and how you may we able to cash in on it even if you already sold your car. >>> a packed show ahead. congressman steven latourette of ohio, senator richard blumenthal of connecticut, plus the grinch. it's...
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i think they have enormous incentive to deal right now because the poll numbers show that obama's numbers are gaining. democratic numbers are gaining. they're up in the 50s. republicans are down in the 20s and 30s. i think republicans lost the economic debate for now with democrats. i think there is lot of pressure on them to get this deal done soon and then, you know, we will start all over again because there will be a presidential budget in february and we'll be back at the table, negotiating this with the republicans right away. so it is just, should be seen as a little fiscal break or a fiscal, we'll come up with a better analogy but temporary stopgap measure what will then be, we're going to be starting this debate all over again in february. heather: mark, in terms of, you know, who the blame is placed upon and in terms of the public, poll after poll does show that they will blame republicans. is that a matter of messaging from republicans and what can they do, if anything, to change that? what have they done wrong? >> number one of the rasmussen poll today showed 44% would blame r
i think they have enormous incentive to deal right now because the poll numbers show that obama's numbers are gaining. democratic numbers are gaining. they're up in the 50s. republicans are down in the 20s and 30s. i think republicans lost the economic debate for now with democrats. i think there is lot of pressure on them to get this deal done soon and then, you know, we will start all over again because there will be a presidential budget in february and we'll be back at the table,...
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obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader harry reid told members to be prepared to address fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get lawmakers to come together before the end of the year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short term spending cuts instead of the massive long-term cuts that would happen if there is no deal. after our wednesday conference call, house republican leaders issued a statement saying they were waiting for the democratic controlled senate. the house will take this action on whatever the senate can pass they said but the senate first must act. in a sign of public frustration over the lack of a deal the coffee giant starbucks is asking employees in approximately 120 washington area cafes to write the words "come together" on cups for drink orders. >> we just wanted to have a subtle message of coming together and everyo
obama wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and senate majority leader harry reid told members to be prepared to address fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get lawmakers to come together before the end of the year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short term spending cuts instead of the massive long-term cuts that...
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and so whether you're deal -- what you're doing with obama is not just the expiration of the bush tax cuts, but obama tax goes into effect as well. the cap gains rate will go up 58% and this is going to lose revenue rather than gain revenue just as it has in the past. similarly, the tax increase on dividends. if the bush tax cut expires, along with the obamacare tax increase, the tax rate on dividends is going to increase -- actually triple. when bush cut the tax rate on dividends, dividends pay soared and so did the taxes napad on them as a result. if you reverse that tax cut and put the obamacare tax on top, dividends are going to collapse and so are the revenues that government will collect from the dividends. you'll have a similar result as you had in 1990 where they increased rather than declined. >> clayton: do we not learn from our history? this seems like it's just repeating all over again. politicians aren't aware of their history here and what we could go through again. we know what 1991 and 1992 looked like with that recession. it was hard. >> the tax increases we're talkin
and so whether you're deal -- what you're doing with obama is not just the expiration of the bush tax cuts, but obama tax goes into effect as well. the cap gains rate will go up 58% and this is going to lose revenue rather than gain revenue just as it has in the past. similarly, the tax increase on dividends. if the bush tax cut expires, along with the obamacare tax increase, the tax rate on dividends is going to increase -- actually triple. when bush cut the tax rate on dividends, dividends...
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there is little to no progress reported in making a deal to avert across the board tax hikes for 90% of american households. president obama on his way back to washington right now but not all the lawmakers are there and if congress and the president do not reach a compromise before january 1st many analysts say the economy will slide back into a recession. gregg: mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. mike, any indication of the president's next move? >> reporter: well, gregg, last time we heard the president talk about the this matter he said he was calling on congressional leaders to essentially make sure taxes do not go up on middle class americans. presumably that would be a package that continues the bush tax cuts for those making up to $250,000. he would also like to continue emergency unemployment benefits for two million americans. and beyond that, details are kind of murky at this point. so we await the president to get back to washington. we know that the senate will be back in session today. we know there have been some conversations back and forth but at this point no ind
there is little to no progress reported in making a deal to avert across the board tax hikes for 90% of american households. president obama on his way back to washington right now but not all the lawmakers are there and if congress and the president do not reach a compromise before january 1st many analysts say the economy will slide back into a recession. gregg: mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. mike, any indication of the president's next move? >> reporter: well, gregg, last time...
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to deal with the fiscal cliff issues. air force one touched down a short while ago at andrews air force base in maryland. we're learning now the president has resumed talking with congressional leaders about trying to solve this crisis that lies just a few days ahead. molly henneberg keeping an eye on that live from the white house. molly? >> reporter: hi, jon, yes. president obama spoke to the top republican and the top democrat in both the house and the senate when he was in hawaii before flying back here to washington. still no negotiation sessions have been set, at least not publicly, not formally. the president cut short his vacation, he left his wife and daughters there in hawaii and flew back here to washington to be here at the white house for any last minute meetings on the fiscalcliff. the vice president is scheduled to be here at the white house for meetings as well. over in congress the senate is in session, the first time either the house or senate has been in session for legislative business between christma
to deal with the fiscal cliff issues. air force one touched down a short while ago at andrews air force base in maryland. we're learning now the president has resumed talking with congressional leaders about trying to solve this crisis that lies just a few days ahead. molly henneberg keeping an eye on that live from the white house. molly? >> reporter: hi, jon, yes. president obama spoke to the top republican and the top democrat in both the house and the senate when he was in hawaii...
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president obama catching a flight back to washington where there's doubt that a deal can get done in time. good morning, everybody, for a thursday morning. very early, 5:00 a.m. on the east coast. welcome to "early start." i'm alina cho. >> i'm drew griffin. john and zoraida are off today. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. a deadly winter storm system slamming the northeast after hammering the nation's heartland. look at this radar, system serious snowmaker. it's packing destructive winds, six states under winter storm warnings right now. pennsylvania, new york, massachusetts, new hampshire, vermont and maine. all could see a foot of snow or more. more than 200,000 customers spanning several states already without power. 1,700 plus flights canceled yesterday. imagine that. hundreds more already taken off the board this morning. there are six deaths being blamed on the weather since tuesday and the threat hasn't passed yesterday. bonnie schneider, meteorologist checking the system from the cnn center in atlanta. first, we go to ennis standing by in miserable, snowy new york. it's a pretty p
president obama catching a flight back to washington where there's doubt that a deal can get done in time. good morning, everybody, for a thursday morning. very early, 5:00 a.m. on the east coast. welcome to "early start." i'm alina cho. >> i'm drew griffin. john and zoraida are off today. it's 5:00 a.m. in the east. a deadly winter storm system slamming the northeast after hammering the nation's heartland. look at this radar, system serious snowmaker. it's packing destructive...
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. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with melissa lee, cramer and neighborer are off today but we are joined by dennis. good morning to you dennis, thanks for coming in. futures today, a lot to deal with as you probably know. the fiscal cliff headline watch continues. you just heard john kanas say the market not too concerned. futures up 21 points. decent data out of europe, we will talk about in a minute what a day for the asian markets again. also coming up. our road map begins at andrews air force base where the president arrives in a couple of hours, cutting his hawaiian vacation short to address the fiscal cliff s there really any hope in the last attempt? does the market fade if there's no news to
. >> all the big deal, boehner and obama tried to do last year, still have to do that, simpson boles-type thing. >> by what the secretary of the treasury said yesterday. >> right. >> thank you for being here. >> bromance. a lot of fun. make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" begins right now. >>> good thursday morning, welcome to "squawk on the street" live from the new york stock exchange, i'm carl kin ten nia with...
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they want a two-year deal because no one wants to keep running on this stuff. and most importantly, to president obama, he has a state of the union and an inauguration speech to give. he wants to work on his legacy, not on this. >> so what -- you just said that the republicans really did just play right into the hands of the democrats. is that what you said? >> well, i think they fumbled the ball a little bit in their negotiations. i think, for example, even the optics of it, having president obama back in washington today, and having congress still out, is not the right message to end. people right now feel that the republicans are the party of no, that they are the ones causing this, they are going to get blamed. the fact of the matter is, is that they are doing the fiscal responsible thing here and that's where they can hang their hat. is that they have to hold on for deficit spending, and they still have the debt ceiling to hold in their back pocket if they need to. >> so what would, if you had been advising boehner, what would you advise him to say yes to?
they want a two-year deal because no one wants to keep running on this stuff. and most importantly, to president obama, he has a state of the union and an inauguration speech to give. he wants to work on his legacy, not on this. >> so what -- you just said that the republicans really did just play right into the hands of the democrats. is that what you said? >> well, i think they fumbled the ball a little bit in their negotiations. i think, for example, even the optics of it, having...
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she said let's make a deal. her prediction, probably the right one, they're going to go home. suddenly once it passes, obama wim introduce his own package which will look like what he's proposing now, and they'll have nothing to do but accept it or else they'll get blamed for everything. >> can you recall a time in your life when you were aware of politics that encompasses, what, a couple of years, at least? a comparable level of incompetence in washington? >> the only thing i can think of is the last four years. i actually spent some of the time over the holidays for my sins reading bob woodward's book. and my overall reaction to all this is groundhog day. it's the same exact issues, some of the same players, same cautions of spending, entitlements, taxation, debt celling, what have you, nothing has changed. so what's so depressing to me is we've had four years or longer to wrestle with these issues. there's virtually been no signs on progress. here we are now with two more self-imposed ceilings. and increasingly, we've got a u.s. government that sticks a gun to its head. sor
she said let's make a deal. her prediction, probably the right one, they're going to go home. suddenly once it passes, obama wim introduce his own package which will look like what he's proposing now, and they'll have nothing to do but accept it or else they'll get blamed for everything. >> can you recall a time in your life when you were aware of politics that encompasses, what, a couple of years, at least? a comparable level of incompetence in washington? >> the only thing i can...
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if nobody is interested in getting this deal? >> as dana pointed out, lots of house republicans would rather vote on something after the 1st than before. i haven't seen any indication from obama or the people around him that they are okay with going over the cliff. they really do seem to want to do something before the deadline. they seem desperate to do that. plenty of liberals say, go over the cliff. big cuts in the pentagon and big tax hikes. the white house, from all indications that i've seen, they don't want that to happen. they are scared of what could happen to the markets. >> why aren't they dalg dealing with boehner? dana, be go ahead. jumpb in here. >> i think they won their negotiating power once boehner last week failed. as dana pushed out, the only thing that can get boehner is to do something. >> reporter: i think that you're right when i said that democrats don't think that the president will have much political damage. that does seem to be coming more from democrats here in congress than in the white house. democ
if nobody is interested in getting this deal? >> as dana pointed out, lots of house republicans would rather vote on something after the 1st than before. i haven't seen any indication from obama or the people around him that they are okay with going over the cliff. they really do seem to want to do something before the deadline. they seem desperate to do that. plenty of liberals say, go over the cliff. big cuts in the pentagon and big tax hikes. the white house, from all indications that...